The executive in question is Trump. Look a room full of gun owners and all talk, it’s time. What about all the ammo Obozo banned from importation? TELL TRUMP TO REVERSE ATF’S RECLASSIFICATION OF HONEY BADGER PISTOL ATF Goes Rogue Once Again! Stop posting comments and photos of your stuff. ATF Pistol Brace Reversal Political Move, 60-Day Suspension of Honey Badger Decision, Photo by @the_official_q. Same method, they’ll just declare certain firearms as SBRs or Ss under NFA by a stroke of a pen. Brietbart News reported that the ATF sent Q a Cease & Desist letter, dated August 3, 2020, announcing a reclassification of Q’s Honey Badger Pistol as a short barrel rifle (SBR). This was just a matter of time, we all know braced pistols are mostly used for shouldering. And don’t get me started on Harris. 0. At this time, Q has not received any definitive guidance from the ATF. ALL THIS B.S IS INFRIGMENT ESPECIALLY TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SMALL , WEAK ,AND OR DISABLED! The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (“ATF”) recently informed firearm manufacturer Q, LLC that, in ATF’s view, Q’s “Honey Badger” pistol with stabilizing brace is actually a short-barreled rifle and therefore subject to the National Firearms Act (“NFA”). an adjustable pistol brace to me just always seemed *a bit too good to be true* My penis extender is illegal now! The Bump stocks, and now I bet they go after braces at some point. Just because there were some anti-gun measures he couldn’t manage by himself doesn’t make him better than Trump. they flew too close to the sun on wax wings They now measure from the muzzle to the end of the bufffer tube. Pretty sure the atf has been doing that long before you or trump was alive… Just sayin. The ATF changed the ruling last year. The National Firearms Act is repugnant to the U.S. Constitution and on its face is null and void. That said the NFA and the F of ATF are un Constitutional in the first place. ATF Backs Off of Q and Honey Badger - For 60 Days CHECK MY WEBSITE FOR STEALS & DEALS JOIN MY EMAIL LIST!! Welcome to politics and infringements buddy… did you have a point? the 200$ Is being seen by them, over and over, and is there excuse for denial of CC charge. If your gonna play, play Upright. BATFE saying it is no different from the Italian Mob saying it, and their soldiers enforcing it should be treated in exactly the same way. AND SO DO YOU! READ MY LIPS….. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED….. Thanks to the popular success of the bump stock ban and generally well received announcement by Trump about “taking the guns first and worrying about the courts later“ have reassured American gun owners that Donald Trump is in your corner! Republican lawmakers, related firearm industry partners, and the White House reportedly have now waded into the controversy over the pistol, which is fitted with a stabilizing brace. The BATFE isn’t accepting as not designed to be fired from the shoulder, so they’re rifles, not pistols. Well, they did the same thing with the Fostech SBV and they used a standard, off the shelf brace. They don’t use the brace because it doesn’t need to be on it to fire the weapon. So let’s get organized. I think it’s because it’s under 26 in. I see this as a test case to see if they can get away with it and use it as justification to go after every ar pistol. Why is this an SBR while the other 8″ – 10 1/2 ” barrel AR’s Pistols What is the difference? You haven’t checked the availability of cans lately, have you? I mean, we all see it. The ATF stated, without further explanation, "[The] ATF believes these firearms are designed and intended to be fired from the shoulder." If you push the envelope and test the limits of a legality, you make it appear that you are daring ATF to do something. Ranked-choice voting would totally transform this country. In the meantime, Q encourages possessors of the Honey Badger Pistol to take these proactive measures until a resolution is reached between Q and ATF. Trump and his Supreme Court nominees are the best thing going for gun owners today. In a letter released to the public on October 14th, Q detailed their decision to cease the production of the Honey Badger pistol until the ATF further clarifies their evaluation of the platform. If you are concerned with this situation – as Q is – we urge you to contact the Department of Justice (ATF’s parent agency) by using the below OneClickPolitics link. The restrictions on Government stay the same, regardless of the firearm. Oh, but things are going to be awesome with Democrats in control of Congress and Biden in the White House, right? Not in support of any ban but you’re stupid or a liar if you say you are surprised. Like many others, I can see no rationale for the determination that it is designed to be fired from the shoulder. That will space the buffer tube back a bit. You’d be a democrat if you voted twice. Sarcasm aside, it’s true that Trump screwed us all on bump stocks, and I’m not forgetting it. Let’s just force the law makers out, demand term limits then and only then we stand down. and is disappointed by the recent ATF actions in classifying their Honey Badger pistol as a short-barreled rifle. This is how it’s going to go with president Harris next year. This isn’t a ruling against pistol braces — just this particular design of pistol brace. In other words, they’re ruling it a stock instead of a pistol brace. Q, in a statement, said the time frame of the pause is curious. It’s not a full reversal of the ATF’s decision classifying Q, LLC’s Honey Badger pistol as a short-barreled rifle, but it’s a step in the right direction. Since 2012, ATF has repeatedly found that firearms with pistol stabilizing braces, like the one equipped on Q’s Honey Badger pistol, are not “designed, made, and intended to be fired from the shoulder,” and are therefore not subject to regulation under the NFA. The manufacturer posted video of people shooting the pistol from a shouldered position. New Hampshire-based Q announced Wednesday that federal regulators have given the company's Cease & Desist order over its Honey Badger pistol a 60-day suspension. TAKE YOUR ILLEGAL LAWS AND SHOVE THEM STRAIGHT UP YOUR FILTHY A$$! The Second Amendment was not written to grant permission for Citizens to own and Bear firearms. Kit Badger has produced a video to address the issue of the ATF seemingly arbitrarily declaring the Q Honey Badger Pistol is an SBR, regulated under the National Firearms Act. Q's legal representation's response to the ATF asks that that the determination is declared non-retroactive, so that Q can create and distribute an appropriate brace to existing owners. Democrat politicians are so happy Trump exposed the NRA and destroyed them with his 4D chess. It seems that the bats are using this insignificant difference to re-con-screw “the intent” of its use to become a “shoulder stock” rather than an “arm brace”. LMAO most underrated comment on this whole post. Open carried one multiple times this year too. Yeah, it’s got that belt to strap it to your arm because it’s designed to be shouldered. the hypocrisy is laughable from you people. There really is no alternative if you support the 2nd Amendment. WA State is looking to ban any pistol over 50oz. If it puts the maximum extension over 13″, I’m going to block the pin groove in the tube so the brace can’t go past the fifth position hole…epoxy or screw in a small piece of flat bar, maybe. The “reason” the Conservatives on the Supreme Court keep refusing to even hear cases about states attitudes concerning modern sporting rifles (semi-automatic centerfire firearms with interchangeable box magazines) is because they too are authoritarian elites who don’t trust “we the people” with uninfringed firearm ownership…but DO trust our employees in law enforcement and the military to have and to use those firearms to protect the personal property, lives, and power structures of THE ELITE. "We believe this 60-day suspension is an effort to put manufacturers, distributors, and consumers at ease, and to postpone the issue past the presidential election in hopes that a new administration will take a different view," said the company. Specifically, Section 512, “Protecting Americans from Violent Crimes,” it dismantles all existing federal restrictions on firearm possession for visitors to the national park system outside Alaska. This means the pistol now falls under the purview of the National Firearms Act (1934), as … Perhaps it’s due to the similar appearance to their SBR stock? Yes the NFA is stupid. I told you guys this would happen the moment Trump opened his mouth. Brietbart News reported that the ATF sent Q a Cease & Desist letter, dated August 3, 2020, announcing a reclassification of Q’s Honey Badger Pistol as a short barrel rifle (SBR). Failure to complete option a or option b could result in prosecution and is subject to a $10,000.00 fine and up to 10 years imprisonment. The only real reason to go with one of these, is if you are physically limited or want to conceal it. Appointed… but irrelevant, because the ATF is gonna infringe no matter who “hires” them, right? State laws — including concealed carry statutes — would govern national forest areas instead.”. “”” FREE KYLE”””. So you think slow joe and his camel toe will stand up for your rights? They remind me of children the way they just williy nilly change there minds about there past conclusions. But you cannot acknowledge the role that Barack Hussein Obama played in expanding your gun rights because he’s not an old white guy who shares your hatred of minorities. To my knowledge, the ATF classification is retroactive unless otherwise stated, so all current Honey Badger Pistol owners are in possession of SBRs. and is disappointed by the recent ATF actions in classifying their Honey Badger pistol as a short-barreled rifle. There is no mention of the Cease and Desist letter on Q’s website, only that the Honey Badger is sold out. They used the same hardware with the exception of the brace. They’ll blame there AI or whatever they use to do that fraud shtuff with. These Rights were expanded under the Obama Administration… Obama = More Pro Gun than Trump. The “pro 2nd crowd” is not pro ATF, or pro president for that matter. I can guarantee you that the Democrats weren’t responsible for the part of it that actually advanced Second Amendment rights. Q Honey Badger Pistol. The ATF considers it “concealable” if it’s under 26″, that makes the brace verboten. On Oct. 28, 2019, President Donald J. Trump signed Executive Order No. Q received a case and desist letter from the BATFE on production of their Honey Badger pistol. BUT…. and then they went and really hurt themselves by showing videos of the weapon being shouldered… He hates guns. When will “the people” learn…. Q takes extreme care to remain in compliance with federal law, and we share your frustration with this development. If you have a compensator or brake it needs to be pinned and welded into place then it is permanent on the weapon. Trump didn’t author or direct this ATF ruling, nor did Obama author or direct the previous pistol brace rulings. ©COPYRIGHT 2020, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Pretty sure that’s the only reason I don’t register SBR’s too… Just sayin. Hey, my LC9 isn’t 26″ long, does that mean it is also an SBR? If we have to hide them, it’s time to use them. U.S.A. –-( The … Trump gave Kamala the strategy for success on passing major federal gun control without congress, something Obama could not succeed at doing no matter how hard the ATF tried. Indeed. New Hampshire-based Q announced Wednesday that federal regulators have given the company's Cease & Desist order over its Honey Badger … Given the dimensions, that’s not conceivably a rifle for anyone over about three foot six inches tall. Though, objectively, I’m not sure how they’re determining that – I saw no mention of what criteria they’re using to make that determination. I can assure you’re no friends to him, or any other TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT….. You can try the government SHILL BS if you want, but True American Patriots aren’t swayed by your shilling or the government’s illegal overreach…. “Donald Trump: more successful at gun control than Obama. You do not have to wait for a court to say they can’t tell you that. ATF Drops NFA Hammer on Q Honey Badger. As I understand it, technically, a pistol doesn’t have a length of pull. Stay in the know. Agreed. USE a check or something like that. In response, Q has ceased all production of the Honey Badger Pistol, and submitted a comprehensive letter to ATF and the Department of Justice (“DOJ”) stating why we disagree with this classification[1]. Trump might have a loud mouth, but he’s moving the country back to where it belongs, unlike any democrat could. F-Troop will be encouraged to make more decisions to restrict as much as possible. The stabilizing brace featured on the Q Honey Badger Pistol is manufactured by SB Tactical.. Wasn’t August 3rd like two months ago? Exactly so. thats why i never bought one Agreed. Maybe the ATF is in need of cash. They are going to use new ATF regs to ban possession of a lot of gun configurations. ‘It’s hard to not see this as “an overtly political act by the ATF right before an election,”’ Last week, Q LLC, manufacturer of the boutique Honey Badger AR pistol, made public an Aug. 3 cease-and-desist letter from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives that seemed to outlaw thousands of Honey Badger pistols — exposing ◀Previous Post Next Post From SB Tactical: SB Tactical, in conjunction with the Firearms Regulatory Accountability Coalition, Inc., (FRAC), and the National Rifle Association, stands in solidarity with Q, LLC. Republicans did do something, they stopped Hearing Protection Act and National Reciprocity! This BS with the American Taxpayer Frauds organization is just that, BULL$HIT! HOWEVER, the left controls both houses, the Gov, and the pending Lt. Gov (very likely winner this nov…D vs D election) will be supreme douche bag globo-C licker Denny Heck. A week ago we broke news to you that the ATF had somewhat suddenly deemed the Q Honey Badger pistol platform was somehow an SBR and thusly issued a cease and desist against Q LLC. TELL TRUMP TO REVERSE ATF’S RECLASSIFICATION OF HONEY BADGER PISTOL ATF Goes Rogue Once Again! I’ll use a coat hanger as a brace and shoulder a glock with a drum mag… in california, just to spite these tyrants. I thought the whole point of the brace was to make it a pistol, not a SBR? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. So the requirement to be a pistol is a LOP of 13.5 in. And then under the same logic they will go after all semiautomatics because they can be readily “redesigned” into machine guns with a belt loop, or a shoe string. We need a Supreme that is overwhelmingly pro 2A to get much of anything done. This is the definition of anarcho-tyranny. Fuck all gun laws. Effectively, it’s either Trump or Biden. The ATF is an executive branch. Come on, see if you can dream up anything stupider! Because “Supreme Court”. Maybe you are talking about FUDDS? If you know a dealer….inquire. America has been over run. What about all the rifles banned from importation- that is already owned by the US? Shares. On the surface, this looks like what we have come to expect from the Bureau of Alcohol, Firearms, Tobacco, and Explosives: a … We got you! In that letter the ATF explains that the Honey Badger pistol by Q is consider a short barrel rifle (SBR) by ATF and is regulated under National Firearms Act. The SCOTUS should rule that the 2nd Amendment is not subject to silly technical games. You’ve ignored almost everything else both Trump and Obama have done regarding the Second Amendment. They know it’s not an SBR. And first bump stocks and now pistol braces, and this has nothing to do with Biden or Harris, all trumps administration. But, my 1911 is under 26″, concealable, and a “pistol”. Wait until the Democrats follow Trump’s lead and declare larger capacity mags weapons of mass destruction. Upon Form 1 approval, the firearm may be reassembled. Did you just assume our political affiliation and stereotype us? Why did they do little or nothing? If you have a common adjustable pistol brace (SBA3, say), you may have noticed that the adjustment pin sits farther back in it than on a rifle buttstock, so even when mounted on a regular rifle buffer tube, the maximum extension is less, so it stays below the “comfortable” range envisioned by the ATF for a rifle stock (over 13″ to trigger?). If Trump can order the NFA to ban bump stocks, Kamala can order it to ban all ARs not registered and taxed in 1986. The cherry-picking of who they “decide” against, well after many sales is interesting. Go ahead, drink some more of that tasty kool aid! The Q LLC Honey Badger pistol, which fires the .300 blackout cartridge, sports a barrel length under 16 inches and uses a pistol arm brace, which traditionally allowed a firearm to be classified as a pistol under ATF guidelines, even though it is visually similar to a rifle, according to the letter.. THE FIX AND HONEY BADGER COLORING BOOK. Hey ATF (AMERICAN TAXPAYER FRAUDS)….. Play the game with the rules they have in place. At this time, Q has not received and definite guidance from the ATF. We apologize for this situation and want to assure you that we, in conjunction with SB Tactical® and the National Rifle Association (NRA®), are doing everything in our power to resolve this matter amicably for all parties involved. These changes in laws just reinforce the idea that lawbreaking is right, because the laws are all arbitrary. Correct, but few will admit this important point. The “Honey Badger” has a “custom made pistol brace” different than other SB Tactical braces. – not an SBR). Manufacturers of the Honey Badger pistol got a love letter from the ATF demanding they cease production “unless it is registered on an ATF Form 2, declaring that they are manufacturing an NFA weapon,” writes The Firearm Blog.. Firearms Manufacturer Q LLC announced today that it was issued a Cease and Desist by the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms. don’t worry, once your boy gets in with kalamamamlalalama…you wont have to worry about any guns and the ATF will just be another Nazi group. Trump’s far from perfect, but his stance on guns is far, far better than Biden’s. Zero legislation. I was surprised when the ATF allowed the shoulder firing with one of these braces. According to the ATF’s letter , “the objective design features of the Honey Badger firearm, configured with the subject stabilizing brace, indicate the firearm is designed and intended to be fired from the shoulder. Thanks to Donald Trump‘s ATF, you will soon be relieved of the burden of ownership of not only bump stocks but pistol braces as well. He won’t be constrained once the midterms are over. “The Right of the People to keep and bear Arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”. Your email address will not be published. you might as well be a hard core dem….and a murderer as well. No excuses. dEmOcRaTs, EvErY SiNgLe oNe nEeDs tO Be vOtEd oUt oF OfFiCe aNd oUt oF OuR ScHoOl sYsTeM!! So far, they haven’t managed that. This issue has nothing to do with Q as a company. “But it can do the same stuff”. There is no left or right, there is only 3 classes peasants, warriors and nobility. . I suppose Obama being pro-gun is why he didn’t go for an “assault weapons” ban after Sandy Hook and Trump banned AR-15s after the Las Vegas massacre. What’s the difference between that and an AR pistol, the arm brace? HoneyBadger owners could face major fines and criminal penalties if they don’t take immediate action to disassemble their pistols after the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives ruled that the popular firearm, manufactured by Q, LLC, is actually a short-barreled rifled (SBR). and is disappointed by the recent ATF actions in classifying their Honey Badger pistol as a short-barreled rifle. Facebook Twitter Pinterest WhatsApp. His 4D chess will achieve heard immunity by 2021. Not only did Donald Trump appoint the current acting director of the ATF, he’s also giving her more power and set up a structure for the ATF to cooperate with police in taking your guns: “ATF Acting Director Regina Lombardo Appointed by United States Attorney General William P. Barr to the Presidential Commission on Law Enforcement and the Administration of Justice Plan is simple, we enforce the expulsion of ALL OF CONGRESS for acts of treason. and it bit them, This is simple… Less than 30 days till the election… Trump made the mistake of leaving Obama era ATF people in office… 3 to 4 million pistol braces sold to mostly 2A Trump supporters… Lets take “em away” and piss off the 2A supporters that always vote Republican.
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